An interview with illustrator Bob Staake about his ‘Orb of Chatham’
Chatham, Cape Cod:
Christopher Seufert: I read that you finished both the drawings and the text of the
Chatham Orb in a week. How could that be true?
Bob Staake: You have to understand, and people who know me know that I’m a
insufferable workaholic who works extremely fast, that the book was the kind of
thing where a lot of things coincided at the same time. Once I decided to do it,
I didn’t outline the book or anything. I went straight to my final illustrations and
They were working out, and I thought, “Well, there’s no real reason to go ahead and
rough this thing. I can take it straight to finish, and do it.”
It was the first of my forty or so books that I’ve done that way, where I just
completely overhauled and finished it with no sketches or anything. I think
some books are like that. It was such a simple story, that at the end of
the day you look at it, it’s 290 words or something, and 13 illustrations.
I tend to work very fast and when I get into a project or a book I’m not the
kind of person who wants that extended term. When they give me those 9 months
for an editor to finish everything, I’m always waiting until the last month
because I don’t want to extend those illustrations in time. For me to keep a
cohesion and consistency between the illustrations works best for me to sit
down and (hand movement) up. I don’t jump from page to page. I do not
say “I want to do this run,” you know, like a video director would or the way a
the film director alternated between these scenes. I tend to have
everything flowed, so no, it literally took a week. It was one of those projects that
I did it over Thanksgiving 2004. I figured I had a little time to do it, so I just
hammered through
CS: So you did it like that without an editor approving your idea or anyone else.
giving you a thumbs up?
BS: Yeah, I just did this for so long that what comes with it is a certain level
I mean, I’ll tell you that one of my concerns was that this is the first
book that I have done completely without an advance or a contract from a publisher.
But my second book, a book called “Red Lemon”, will come out with Random
House and it was done the same way too. All the way through. and you sit there
with these books and you think, “Am I kidding myself that this story
really has wings and can fly?” Because you’re not showing anyone. You’re showing
your friends, and all your friends are going to say “This is wonderful!” you know, not
one is honest with you. It’s only when you take it to that editor and “Boom!”
within an hour, you’ve been offered a contract and you’re like, “Okay, great, I’m
not delusional My head isn’t somewhere it shouldn’t be.” So, there’s a complete
vindication, but politically, when you work with publishers and art directors and
editors, he was certainly hyper-aware of the political ramifications of essentially
telling a publisher, “Hey, I don’t need you here on this book.” But happily not that.
turn them off and happily the book goes very well.
CS: Is it? It stands out to me and is refreshing in that it asks for an asset
participation on the part of the reader, while most books are much more
passive experience. But I wouldn’t necessarily think that would translate to
Success in business. Of course, authors like Edward Gorey really worked in that market.
right.
Do most of the people you talk to “get” the concept of the mystery you’ve exposed,
with the codependency of the book and the website?
BS: Those people who get the book, those who read the book and unlock the code
and go to the deepest website and see all the things that are there, they are
responding incredibly well to her. There has been some interest in an Inside The Orb
of Chatham, and in what happens next in a follow-up book, and I don’t know. You
You know, one of my feelings about the book is that the reader is the person who
create that backstory. The reader is the person who takes the basic story and
develop it in your mind. I mean, it’s really an experience. what he wanted to do
was to democratize the literary experience between reader and writer and book and
to really elevate the importance of the reader, and to make the argument that
The book would exist without a reader, okay? At the end of the day, that’s really true,
but what he really wanted to do was just build on it with a vengeance. me
I really wanted to do an experience where the reality of a person with that book is
different from the next person. They are that causal and integral part of the whole
process that completes the picture. So the idea of making a follow-up book, the idea
to do anything other than that goes against what I’ve done
here with the book.
CS: Personally, I was able to unlock the code and enter the website, but I was
Quite impressed by the depth of the website inside. layers of peeled onion
away and I don’t know if I have yet got a full understanding of the mystery that is
presented there. So I went back to the book, read it again and my whole perspective
in history changed again. Then of course back to the website, and this is the
way it’s been going. I’m still trying to understand the real questions that are
that is asked of me as a reader of the book.
BS: A lot of people have seen the book and they are a bit amazed.
someone figured out a way to incorporate a literary experience with a website
component, and turn it into this whole multimedia thing and I’m flattered by
that, but I have to believe someone else has. I think it’s very
ambitious website and there is a lot going on there, but it seems like a
complete naturals. Certainly, for a mystery like this, it was a case where
I want to tell this great and elaborate story in the book. I could have done it very easily, but
I really wanted the website to work like… This is what I tell people: “The end of
the book, the end of the Orb of Chatham, is truly the beginning of the story. That is
where does it start.”
So you set the stage, and once they unlock the code and go to the website,
continue, so for me, both as a writer and as an illustrator, it was a great way to
experience… continue to let the story breathe, just take angles and insert
incredible detail in a backstory that just wouldn’t have worked in print
book reaching 290 words. She wanted him this naked. I wanted him this naked and I
I wanted the illustrations to be really sparse, and then I wanted to continue
From there.
CS: Was the website kind of a second idea, or was it always part of the initial idea?
concept from day one?
BS: Honestly, I can’t remember. I can tell you this. It was essential to do
Orb of Chatham and complete the entire book, and take it to a publisher, a
small regional house like Commonwealth Editions in Boston, which did a beautiful
worked. They really backed up the book in a way that Viking or Simon and Schuster or
Random House wouldn’t have done it. But when I was considering Random House,
thought, “There’s no way I can do it the traditional way,” which is to show the cover,
Show the story and show a couple of examples. I mean, everyone would watch
and say “what?!” I am at a stage in my career where, due to the use of the web
The way I do it, I can submit a book over the Internet to a publisher. When I call a
editor and say, “This is what I got,” they can watch it online. there is no more reason
have those hard copies fly to New York. So, I think as I built the
pages, showing how the book would flow, and it was very important to show black
background on the left with gray font and illustration on the right, it was just a
natural and then develop it further from there.
CS: What kind of reaction do you get from those who don’t “get” the book? There are
those who don’t “get” what are you asking the reader to do here? it’s not
Is it supposed to be a traditional book?
BS: No, I don’t think it’s a case of people not getting it. I think there are people who
he’ll look at it and say, “Oh no, this is going to take work,” you know. Only me
turns out to be a puzzle person, I like things like that; any kind of puzzle, any kind of
thing you have to decode or decipher, you know. I’m fascinated by things like
that. There are some people who like that and some who don’t, those people
who like tomatoes and some people who don’t. This is a large, juicy tomato. never
stop surprising me. Some people will say, “I’ve been working on this for three days to
try to figure out the code,” and I’m like, “Hey, at least you’re working,” and I sit there and
say, “You’ll get it, you’ll figure it out.” One review said what was interesting about the
code is that there are a couple of very simple questions, and in a way they strengthen
you think, “no brainer, I’ll fly right through this,” but then it gets hard and
people are going back to a couple of tracks that they can’t quite grasp.
CS: So what is the correct way to approach the overall mystery and the individual?
components of the book and the website? Is the resolution of the mystery better done?
With logic or with imagination?
BS: People look at me and say, “This is a number-based code,” and it really isn’t. It’s
it requires numbers, but it really requires all the senses… a visual sense, a tactile sense
in holding the book, certainly an oral sense in terms of listening to the music, because
it’s really creepy and sets the stage. It’s almost a full immersion thing.
One of the things that I found interesting, and it’s one of the things that I wanted
do in the book, was when you read the book, you come to a conclusion about the story.
If you are forced to go ahead and figure out the code and get in there, then what
website is to take your original assumption and turn it on its head. all of a
Suddenly, you have a completely different view of what really happened, you know?
That is what I wanted to create. She wanted to create a kind of “Aha!” time for him
reader where you think, “You know what? I really thought this was the real story,
But now I have a completely different opinion.”
And now an exclusive hint: author Bob Staake has kindly provided this
interviews readers with an exclusive bonus clue to the mystery of the Orb of Chatham.
However, for you to understand this clue, you must have already cracked the
initial code on his website and gained access to the inner mystery of the orb. If you
you haven’t accomplished this basic first step yet, go back and do it before you try
this additional phase of investigation.
The Christopher Seufert interview clue is not necessary for you to solve the mystery.
(you just need the book and its official website for that http://
http://www.OrbofChatham.com), but in fact points to an additional piece of the
puzzle that is only available through this exclusive link. But we’re not going alone
give you the hint, you’re going to have to work for it. Do some serious research and
your clue will be revealed.
Now visit the track online at [http://www.MyChatham.com-] one of the real
The “orbose” links on the right lead to Bob Staak’s additional research clue. Read the
ten links, but don’t guess, then select the bottom button where you want
most feel that it drives closer to the heart of the mystery. Choose wisely, however. You
just get one guess every two hours from your current computer. you get unlimited
guess, but if your guess is wrong, you won’t be allowed to guess again for that
time frame.